Comments on: Even Better Scrollable Menus for Flex http://dougmccune.com/blog/2007/01/26/even-better-scrollable-menus-for-flex/ A blog about Adobe Flex Tue, 06 Jan 2009 11:49:06 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6.3 By: Alain http://dougmccune.com/blog/2007/01/26/even-better-scrollable-menus-for-flex/#comment-205989 Alain Fri, 14 Nov 2008 10:41:48 +0000 http://dougmccune.com/blog/2007/01/26/even-better-scrollable-menus-for-flex/#comment-205989 That's exactly what i'm looking for ! Great job !!!!! That’s exactly what i’m looking for ! Great job !!!!!

]]> By: Roy http://dougmccune.com/blog/2007/01/26/even-better-scrollable-menus-for-flex/#comment-205925 Roy Tue, 11 Nov 2008 23:14:18 +0000 http://dougmccune.com/blog/2007/01/26/even-better-scrollable-menus-for-flex/#comment-205925 Hey great job and thanks alot Does anyone have an idea if i can use it to scroll lists horizontally? i mean instead of a scroll bar i will have an arrow to the left and the right once again great job Hey great job and thanks alot
Does anyone have an idea if i can use it to scroll lists horizontally? i mean instead of a scroll bar i will have an arrow to the left and the right
once again great job

]]> By: Anandarup http://dougmccune.com/blog/2007/01/26/even-better-scrollable-menus-for-flex/#comment-55553 Anandarup Thu, 14 Feb 2008 11:18:00 +0000 http://dougmccune.com/blog/2007/01/26/even-better-scrollable-menus-for-flex/#comment-55553 I liked the menu very much and it served us great purpose.Your efforts to improve the visual part of flex is greatly appreciated. I have a question here....But Can the texts in the dropdownmenus start from extreme left....just as a normal combo box...instead it seems like taking textindent somewehre.I have set the Textindent = 0 but doesn't solve the purpose.Also how to set it's width..i don't want it more than the combobox width.. I think Luke McLean also wanted the same answer.Please help us both. I liked the menu very much and it served us great purpose.Your efforts to improve the visual part of flex is greatly appreciated.

I have a question here….But Can the texts in the dropdownmenus start from extreme left….just as a normal combo box…instead it seems like taking textindent somewehre.I have set the Textindent = 0 but doesn’t solve the purpose.Also how to set it’s width..i don’t want it more than the combobox width..

I think Luke McLean also wanted the same answer.Please help us both.

]]> By: Paul Bohnenkamp http://dougmccune.com/blog/2007/01/26/even-better-scrollable-menus-for-flex/#comment-52081 Paul Bohnenkamp Tue, 05 Feb 2008 03:44:09 +0000 http://dougmccune.com/blog/2007/01/26/even-better-scrollable-menus-for-flex/#comment-52081 Hey Doug, As I've recently discovered, great stuff. Can't wait to hear your talk at ATL. One point though as someone coming new to flex, it'd be even if you could activate controls like this via mouse-over or hover. Is that possible. Also, I'd love to hear more from Adobe on the the non-standard/compile css to swf CSS impl. It's really hard IMHO to get a grasp on on from a Ajax/Html background, especially related to non impl of CSS selectors -- WTF. Hey Doug,

As I’ve recently discovered, great stuff. Can’t wait to hear your talk at ATL.

One point though as someone coming new to flex, it’d be even if you could activate controls like this via mouse-over or hover. Is that possible.

Also, I’d love to hear more from Adobe on the the non-standard/compile css to swf CSS impl. It’s really hard IMHO to get a grasp on on from a Ajax/Html background, especially related to non impl of CSS selectors — WTF.

]]> By: Jeff http://dougmccune.com/blog/2007/01/26/even-better-scrollable-menus-for-flex/#comment-7840 Jeff Fri, 27 Jul 2007 06:17:26 +0000 http://dougmccune.com/blog/2007/01/26/even-better-scrollable-menus-for-flex/#comment-7840 Wow, great job! I came across your site while searching for a multi tier combo box and what you've put together is really close to what I'm looking for. How easy (or hard) would it be to modify the Scrollable PopUpMenuButton to have sub menus similar to Scrollable MenuBar and Scrollable Menu examples? Once again, great job and thanks for sharing! Wow, great job! I came across your site while searching for a multi tier combo box and what you’ve put together is really close to what I’m looking for. How easy (or hard) would it be to modify the Scrollable PopUpMenuButton to have sub menus similar to Scrollable MenuBar and Scrollable Menu examples?

Once again, great job and thanks for sharing!

]]> By: im2adobe http://dougmccune.com/blog/2007/01/26/even-better-scrollable-menus-for-flex/#comment-1483 im2adobe Fri, 30 Mar 2007 13:12:30 +0000 http://dougmccune.com/blog/2007/01/26/even-better-scrollable-menus-for-flex/#comment-1483 Really great job. :) I am also trying to make something near about same, so I can understand how much pain u got. Even I got some tips from your work.. Thank you.. Really great job. :)

I am also trying to make something near about same, so I can understand how much pain u got. Even I got some tips from your work..

Thank you..

]]> By: Derek Vadneau http://dougmccune.com/blog/2007/01/26/even-better-scrollable-menus-for-flex/#comment-351 Derek Vadneau Fri, 02 Mar 2007 17:26:38 +0000 http://dougmccune.com/blog/2007/01/26/even-better-scrollable-menus-for-flex/#comment-351 I agree with Daniel and Ray wrt the ON policy value. Having the behaviour the way it is for AUTO is pretty nice. However, it should change if the policy is set to ON. Lets put it this way, if you were using the TextArea component and set the scroll policy to ON, you wouldn't expect the text to be obscured by the scrollbars, would you? No. The text is wrapped at a different spot when the vertical scrollbar is displayed and the scrollable area is different for horizontal scrolling if the vertical scrollbar is displayed with no wrapping. When your scroll policy is set to ON, add the arrows but shift the start and end coordinates of the list. I agree with Daniel and Ray wrt the ON policy value. Having the behaviour the way it is for AUTO is pretty nice. However, it should change if the policy is set to ON. Lets put it this way, if you were using the TextArea component and set the scroll policy to ON, you wouldn’t expect the text to be obscured by the scrollbars, would you? No. The text is wrapped at a different spot when the vertical scrollbar is displayed and the scrollable area is different for horizontal scrolling if the vertical scrollbar is displayed with no wrapping.

When your scroll policy is set to ON, add the arrows but shift the start and end coordinates of the list.

]]> By: Luke McLean http://dougmccune.com/blog/2007/01/26/even-better-scrollable-menus-for-flex/#comment-180 Luke McLean Mon, 26 Feb 2007 00:37:30 +0000 http://dougmccune.com/blog/2007/01/26/even-better-scrollable-menus-for-flex/#comment-180 Hi Doug, I like your work here but I'm trying to find out how to create a menu that works from the bottom left corner of the canvas up and right (like a Wondoze start button), rather than top left, down right. All the flex examples I can find appear to go the same way. Could you give me a some pointers please. Thanks, Luke. Hi Doug,

I like your work here but I’m trying to find out how to create a menu that works from the bottom left corner of the canvas up and right (like a Wondoze start button), rather than top left, down right. All the flex examples I can find appear to go the same way. Could you give me a some pointers please.

Thanks,
Luke.

]]> By: Ray Greenwell http://dougmccune.com/blog/2007/01/26/even-better-scrollable-menus-for-flex/#comment-52 Ray Greenwell Wed, 31 Jan 2007 03:37:34 +0000 http://dougmccune.com/blog/2007/01/26/even-better-scrollable-menus-for-flex/#comment-52 Doug, excellent work, thanks for posting the source. You are raising the level of quality in the flash world. Regarding scroll policies: I use ON with vertical scrollbars sometimes. Why? - If a scrollbar is suddenly required, the width available for content does not change. - It can be very useful to show a user that a thing CAN be scrolled, it just doesn't require scrolling right now. I think that arrowScrollPolicy set to ON is not pointless. You should add the arrow buttons, avoiding the menu content, and making them disabled if not needed. Basically: ON: always show, even if disabled AUTO: show if needed OFF: never show The question then becomes whether you change the current AUTO behavior to continue removing the arrow button when scrolled all the way to one end of the content. To match the behavior of ON more closely, you may want to instead disable the arrow button. ...Of course, matching the 3 constants used for scrollbars may not even make sense. Should anyone use an ScrollableArrowMenu if they want to turn the arrows off? Perhaps you replace the policy property with a simple alwaysShowArrows boolean... The only other request I would have would be to make the arrow skins styleable with a stylesheet. That'll probably double the size of the code without much excitement.. boo. Doug, excellent work, thanks for posting the source. You are raising the level of quality in the flash world.

Regarding scroll policies: I use ON with vertical scrollbars sometimes. Why?
- If a scrollbar is suddenly required, the width available for content does not change.
- It can be very useful to show a user that a thing CAN be scrolled, it just doesn’t require scrolling right now.

I think that arrowScrollPolicy set to ON is not pointless. You should add the arrow buttons, avoiding the menu content, and making them disabled if not needed.

Basically:
ON: always show, even if disabled
AUTO: show if needed
OFF: never show

The question then becomes whether you change the current AUTO behavior to continue removing the arrow button when scrolled all the way to one end of the content. To match the behavior of ON more closely, you may want to instead disable the arrow button.

…Of course, matching the 3 constants used for scrollbars may not even make sense. Should anyone use an ScrollableArrowMenu if they want to turn the arrows off? Perhaps you replace the policy property with a simple alwaysShowArrows boolean…

The only other request I would have would be to make the arrow skins styleable with a stylesheet. That’ll probably double the size of the code without much excitement.. boo.

]]> By: Doug http://dougmccune.com/blog/2007/01/26/even-better-scrollable-menus-for-flex/#comment-51 Doug Tue, 30 Jan 2007 16:26:42 +0000 http://dougmccune.com/blog/2007/01/26/even-better-scrollable-menus-for-flex/#comment-51 If you're referring to the fact that the top and bottom arrow buttons are always shown when you set ArrowScrollPolicy to ON, which then obstructs the view of the menu items, then you're right, but I wouldn't call it a 'bug'. That's what I told it to do. Basically setting arrowScrollPolicy to ON is pointless, I just added it in so it would mimic the verticalScrollPolicy functionality. The arrows appear over the menu items. There's no point in having them show up if they aren't needed, so you should always use ScrollPolicy.AUTO. I could've just made ON and AUTO do the same thing. Besides, does anybody actually ever set verticalScrollPolicy to ON? I don't think I've ever used it, I always just use AUTO. So yeah, maybe I'll change it. If you’re referring to the fact that the top and bottom arrow buttons are always shown when you set ArrowScrollPolicy to ON, which then obstructs the view of the menu items, then you’re right, but I wouldn’t call it a ‘bug’. That’s what I told it to do. Basically setting arrowScrollPolicy to ON is pointless, I just added it in so it would mimic the verticalScrollPolicy functionality. The arrows appear over the menu items. There’s no point in having them show up if they aren’t needed, so you should always use ScrollPolicy.AUTO.

I could’ve just made ON and AUTO do the same thing. Besides, does anybody actually ever set verticalScrollPolicy to ON? I don’t think I’ve ever used it, I always just use AUTO. So yeah, maybe I’ll change it.

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